It would be easy to compare Alex Gibneck's new HBO documentary The Inventor: Out for Blood in Silicon Valley with the latest films of. Everyone involves a certain joy that comes with looking at the rich and powerful lie and getting their comeuppance. But the lie of Elizabeth Holmes with her company Theranos makes Fyre Festival an amateur time.
Holmes, modeled after Steve Jobs, went as far as wearing a black turtleneck daily, unfolding to revolutionize blood tests. But her health care started famous ended up being a multibillion-dollar fraud.
The new film about Holmes and Theranos, flying on HBO from Monday, March 1
After the screening, Ina Fried of Axios led a discussion with documentary director Alex Gibney, producer Jesse Deeter, Therano's whistleblower Tyler Shultz and Holmes advisor at Stanford University, Phyllis Gardner. Gibney, who also did Enron: The smartest guys in the room, Taxi on the dark side and Going Clear, explain that a belief in improving the world persuaded Holmes to stop at nothing to see her vision intent.
Below are some highlights from Q & A. And for more thoughts on.
Director Alex Gibney on why Therano's story strikes a nerve
"It is a story of someone who motivated so many people about a sense of mission and idealism and hope, and also hopes that this was a young female entrepreneur in the man-dominated Silicon Valley that will succeed itself – and it represented so much to so many people – but which turned out to be a scam. And it was extremely outrageous for humans. "
Phyllis Gardner heard Holm's idea for blood testing
"I spent years very upset about Elizabeth. She came to me when she was 19 and she didn't have a realistic idea and she didn't want to listen. And that's just not. It's one thing to fail if you're in a software or hardware store. But in medicine: No! You can't do that. "
Gibney compares Holmes with Steve Jobs
" What she shared with Steve Jobs was an ability to be an incredible narrator "Steve Jobs was a wonderful narrator. Whether he was an inventor, it's a matter of dispute. But he was a magnificent narrator. And so was Elizabeth Holmes, I would argue.
"What Elizabeth did not take from the Steve Jobs lesson … was Apple 2.0 (the iPhone version of Apple) – an Apple where Steve Jobs had learned some very powerful lessons of failure, failure at the first round with Apple. He surrounded himself with some very powerful and skilled people: Jon Rubinstein, Avie Tevanian, Jony Ive and people willing to give him bad news – and he was willing to hear it. So it's not something she absorbed at all. " 19659006] Gardner talks about Holme's impact on future female entrepreneurs
"I think it has been devastating for women. But I think there are good women and smart women and women who can do So I still stand behind women. "
Producer Jesse Deeter about women's reaction to the movie
" I had several women who were former employees who said we would not talk to you because what you did r with this reporting drops the cause of women. And I was like, I'm a woman! You can't do that. You can't make unevenness. You cannot lie, cheat and steal because you are a woman. It's not an excuse … We have to be kept to the same standards. "
Gibney on How Holmes Compare to Scientology
" As for Scientology, the subtitle of the movie is Going Clear "The Prison of Faith." I think Elizabeth was a very faith-believer. It is one of the things that led her to ignore all the warning signs and all the criticisms. And those who attacked her – she would rather struggle back. In fact, some of the people who were interested in their history were prisoners of the throne. "
Whistleblower Tyler Shultz getting woken up by Theranos
" One of the things my mother always reminds me of is "no matter what the result is you are still young, you're creative, you're still healthy, you Have a Stanford training, they can't take any of it from you, so you'll be fine, always remember it. "And it got me through everything. San Francisco Premiere of Inventor: Except Blood In Silicon Valley From HBO ” height=”0″ width=”970″ data-original=”https://cnet1.cbsistatic.com/img/oHOGc2HORgaVT_jF4lW0WPmGuXg=/970×0/2019/03/15/0fab440b-95cc-4d86-8f00-eee3705e187e/gettyimages-1130087679.jpg”/>
Director Alex Gibney Attends A Panel Discussion At The Invention's San Francisco Premiere: Out for blood in Silicon Valley.
Gibney on how Holmes compares to Enron
"You think of Enron as a scammer. But especially Jeff Skilling (who just came out of prison) was someone who really believed in Enron's mission and believed in the idea of a clean outdoor company that revolutionized energy – so much so that when things began to go wrong for him, instead of acknowledging it, he continued to double and pretend that the dream was right instead of acknowledging that it was not, he believed the end justified [that] it was OK for them to get involved in this massive betrayal, where they hid all sorts of guilt and pretended it was revenue because they would eventually change the world.
"So this idea justifies the means … When you believe so passionately In a mission like that it allows you to be much more effective about your fraud, because you do not think you are doing anything wrong. "
Deeter on Holmes's vision for the movie
" "I thought we were meeting to discuss them so we could film an interview. [But] I was interviewed. She presented it as if we were so lucky that it was the law that captures Theranos 2.0, that is, the same villain they have done before. "
Gibney Getting Behind The Scenes
" We found some of the people willing to leak about a hundred hours of imagery from inside the company. [Theranos] made his own documentary, [like] they analyzed what happens if there was a camera in the garage with Steve Jobs and Woz. "
Gardner on what she asked Holmes now, given the chance
]" I just ask that I get this chance. When she goes to jail: Would she have a black turtleneck accent with her orange jumpsuit? "